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Can I get the Christian take on this please?

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Posted: 12/28/03 - 14:49
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RealPoor Jedi
Silvermouse
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On the mudslide that killed people at a church camp on Christmas day. I suppose God had plans for them in Heaven, so He decided to kill them all in a mudslide on Christmas day. Is that the Christian view? My view is that you're wasting your faith!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3660592/

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SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. - Emergency crews returned to the debris-covered site of a mountain church camp Sunday to search for seven people missing since a Christmas Day mudslide, while at the church many of the victims attended, members prepared for a memorial service.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 14:50
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Paco
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God punished them for not knowing who WNWS is.

I, Jesus, His Son, sayeth it is so.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:11
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Silvermouse wrote:
On the mudslide that killed people at a church camp on Christmas day. I suppose God had plans for them in Heaven, so He decided to kill them all in a mudslide on Christmas day. Is that the Christian view? My view is that you're wasting your faith!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3660592/

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SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. - Emergency crews returned to the debris-covered site of a mountain church camp Sunday to search for seven people missing since a Christmas Day mudslide, while at the church many of the victims attended, members prepared for a memorial service.


Well I'm not a currently practicing Christian, but....

Shit happens. God basically put us here on earth to have our own will. Whatever the f**k happens, happens.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:40
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Do you think that once you become a Christian that all bad things automatically stop happening to you?

If this was the case I'm pretty sure most people on the planet would be Christian. I think it is pretty naive to think like that.

God doesn't promise to protect you from bad or evil things. He does promise you his presence and strength to help you cope and deal with misfortune though.

I do believe that things happen for a reason though, sometimes it's just pretty tough to figure out what that reason is.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:44
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It amazes me how many christians dont even understand there own faith, most of the churchs teach a bastardized version of christianity edited to get more people into it.. earth is the domain of the devil!


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:44
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Clevinger wrote:


I do believe that things happen for a reason though, sometimes it's just pretty tough to figure out what that reason is.


There was a big fire, all the plants burned, the dirt had nothing to hold it in place when the rains turned it into mud.

When the rains came, the dumb people weren't smart enough to head for higher ground.

Deez be da reasons.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:46
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lol


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:46
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Clevinger wrote:
God doesn't promise to protect you from bad or evil things. He does promise you his presence and strength to help you cope and deal with misfortune though.


Then what's the point?

Do you really need that crutch called religion?


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:47
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Clevinger

 
another original, intelligent comment from akronn!


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:48
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Akronn wrote:
Clevinger wrote:
God doesn't promise to protect you from bad or evil things. He does promise you his presence and strength to help you cope and deal with misfortune though.


Then what's the point?

Do you really need that crutch called religion?


Why do you care?


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:50
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Clevinger

 
It eats him up. Deep down inside he knows something is missing and it tears him up because he can't figure out what it is.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:52
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Akronn

 
Heh, not really lol.

I don't care, but it's funny to hear people talk about this mystical (wo)man 'giving them strength.'

I simply can't imagine why you feel the need to believe in something like that.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:53
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Akronn wrote:
Heh, not really lol.

I don't care, but it's funny to hear people talk about this mystical (wo)man 'giving them strength.'

I simply can't imagine why you feel the need to believe in something like that.


You sure wonder about it alot, I wonder why.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:53
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hehe, the point is, stop defending God when utter shit happens. When a bus full of kids on the way to church camp gets struck by lightning and they all die, feel free to hate your savior instead of making up b******t excuses that put a positive spin on it, i.e., "God must have special plans for them! /HUGZZZZ"

Not all Christians do this, but enough of them do to make me want to slam my fist down in rage!


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:54
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Silvermouse wrote:
hehe, the point is, stop defending God when utter shit happens. When a bus full of kids on the way to church camp gets struck by lightning and they all die, feel free to hate your savior instead of making up b******t excuses that put a positive spin on it, i.e., "God must have special plans for them! /HUGZZZZ"

Not all Christians do this, but enough of them do to make me want to slam my fist down in rage!


You kids get upset about some strange things.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:55
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Akronn wrote:
Heh, not really lol.

I don't care, but it's funny to hear people talk about this mystical (wo)man 'giving them strength.'

I simply can't imagine why you feel the need to believe in something like that.


ok bud, i'm sure you dont care at all


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:55
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Akronn

 
People keep bringing it up, Kbarr.

/shrug I don't sit around thinking about religion, but I'll throw my two cents in when the subject comes up. I think it's funny stuff.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 15:57
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Akronn wrote:
People keep bringing it up, Kbarr.

/shrug I don't sit around thinking about religion, but I'll throw my two cents in when the subject comes up. I think it's funny stuff.



The same types of people bring it up, the ones who seem anti religion. Then the same anti religion type people, you for example, give their 2 cents.

I think *that* is funny.


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 16:00
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I don't understand why you guys get so upset at the mention of God or Chrisitanity or religion. Unless someone is just shoving it down your throat or something alon those lines what does it bother you so much for?

Sometimes the things people hate the most are the things they most envy. I know I am this way sometimes and many of the hardcore atheists I have met seem to be the same way. They are unhappy with their lives and don't feel the satisfaction and happiness that they see some believers that they know feel and I think they are jealous of this. In response they criticize religion and label believers as "closed-minded" or "people with a crutch in their lives", etc.

What are the tings that really p**s you guys off about people believing in God?


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Posted: 12/28/03 - 16:01
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And you're allowed to think it's funny, Kbarr.

Now, tell me, which religion is right for you? Wink



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